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. >> they blame house republicans since john boehner hasn't been able to get them a deal to raise taxes. the name calling is getting ugly. >> american people don't understand the house of representative is operating without the house of representatives. it is being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker not allowing the vast majority of the council to representatives to get what they want. >>> and while it's true that the senate controlled democrats is working this week, they are not working on fiscal cliff matters and the house won't even be back to work sunday two-days before the end of year deadline. theoretically these guys have time to get something done here. it is also possible at today's meeting at the white house may be simply window dressing. >> see what happens ten hours from now. time now to take a look at who is talking and this morning we are hearing from charles krauthammer. >> last night on hannity he was talking about the looming fiscal cliff and the president's approach to negotiations. krauthammer giving his take on why a deal has not been reached yet. >> it has
. >> they blame house republicans since john boehner hasn't been able to get them a deal to raise taxes. the name calling is getting ugly. >> american people don't understand the house of representative is operating without the house of representatives. it is being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker not allowing the vast majority of the council to representatives to get what they want. >>> and while it's true that the senate controlled democrats is working this...
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speaker boehner says quote now the focus turns to spending. the american people releblthed a republican majority in the house we will use it to hold the president accountable for the balanced approach he said for the reforms driving our country deeper and deeper into debt. the second ranking republican in the house after speaker boehner is majority leader is eric cantor. cantor voted against this deal last night. a spokesman told us the virginia congressman was not happy with the bill that passed the senate and spent all day yesterday trying to find an alternative but he couldn't. he said he is still proud of the speaker and other republicans who vote to do avoid what he called the largest tax hike in u.s. history. >>> the debate is far from over as law americas turn their focus to the debt ceiling and spending cuts. for that we take a look at who is talking. >> charles krauthammer talking his analysis how he thinks those negotiations will unfold. >> i expecting it will end up with a patch with the view of our fiscal problems another failure a
speaker boehner says quote now the focus turns to spending. the american people releblthed a republican majority in the house we will use it to hold the president accountable for the balanced approach he said for the reforms driving our country deeper and deeper into debt. the second ranking republican in the house after speaker boehner is majority leader is eric cantor. cantor voted against this deal last night. a spokesman told us the virginia congressman was not happy with the bill that...
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john boehner from the very beginning put 800 billion in revenue on the table. the president was known to say, well, that's mine. i get that one for free. i don't have to give anything in return. the president in addressing a deficit added $1.6 trillion in new spending. gregg: yeah. >> so who are we joking right now? the president has never taken the spending side of this equation seriously, which is why we don't have a deal. republicans have put their necks on the line supporting new revenues, the president's not coming through. gregg: senator barrasso said the president does want to go over the cliff, because he wants to punish republicans. is there something to that? >> i don't think there's anything to that, but the reality is that if he wants to get anything done, he has two options. he either breaks the republicans on taxes, or he breaks the republicans. i read that somewhere, and i thought it was a fantastic quote. but i do think that he is going -- i don't think any of us want to see the country go off the cliff. gregg: maybe he just didn't think $16 tri
john boehner from the very beginning put 800 billion in revenue on the table. the president was known to say, well, that's mine. i get that one for free. i don't have to give anything in return. the president in addressing a deficit added $1.6 trillion in new spending. gregg: yeah. >> so who are we joking right now? the president has never taken the spending side of this equation seriously, which is why we don't have a deal. republicans have put their necks on the line supporting new...
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boehner is worried about the country but most of all worried about mr. boehner. tracy: right, exactly. peter, i love your analogy we could go bungee jumping because i think at end of the day that is what happens, right? they will make everything retroactive. what does that do to the economy or at least people's psyches, very well be the first month of the year? >> if it is a whole month it is not bunge jumping. we're off the cliff. they have to have a deal in sight or people will start to change their behavior in two ways. they have less money to spend. if you think folks lack confidence in washington now, if they can not resolve it and no liz solution in sight, consumers won't have much confidence in washington and investors may start getting shaky about u.s. bond. tracy: peter what is the time frame, what do they have? do they have a week into the new year? two weeks before all hell breaks loose? >> it depend whether in the first week they have the makings of a deal and matter of just getting it through so by the 15th we're done. if we get up on the third and w
boehner is worried about the country but most of all worried about mr. boehner. tracy: right, exactly. peter, i love your analogy we could go bungee jumping because i think at end of the day that is what happens, right? they will make everything retroactive. what does that do to the economy or at least people's psyches, very well be the first month of the year? >> if it is a whole month it is not bunge jumping. we're off the cliff. they have to have a deal in sight or people will start to...
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gregg: what of john boehner though? steve latourette, who said, the same 50 or 60 chuckle heads who always screw things up, speaking of the tea party group. >> yeah. gregg: he said it is not really the speaker's fault. is it the speaker's fault? >> well, look, i think boehner was, he is in a bad spot. there are no good outcomes here for republicans. there have been no good policy outcomes for republicans. i watched the steven latourette comment, one of the things that struck me, these are the guys, 50 or 60 chuckle heads came here and screwed things up. the presumption congress was working just fine before they arrived. i would argue that it is nice we have people in congress who are actually serious about looking at the long term consequences of our overspending over these past couple of decades. that is where the real problem is. he can say they're stubborn and not willing to compromise and all things he said repeatedly as he made those criticisms but the reality is they're actually trying to solve the long-term probl
gregg: what of john boehner though? steve latourette, who said, the same 50 or 60 chuckle heads who always screw things up, speaking of the tea party group. >> yeah. gregg: he said it is not really the speaker's fault. is it the speaker's fault? >> well, look, i think boehner was, he is in a bad spot. there are no good outcomes here for republicans. there have been no good policy outcomes for republicans. i watched the steven latourette comment, one of the things that struck me,...
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we have been so focused on the house, speaker boehner, plan. about, plan b falling apart. now speaker boehner is pointing towards the senate and the white house is pointing towards the senate as a place where we might get bipartisan cooperation. they think they have 10 republican votes for some kind of a plan that the president would propose that democrats in republicans in the senate could get together on and then ask speaker boehner to have a vote on it in the house. that could be a problem for speaker boehner because he could get a bill passed with that splits his republican caucus and puts in danger his re-election as speaker on january 3rd. kelly: that is a lot of talk going around in circles in washington right now. you're very optimistic something can be done but on the other hand there are several economist, juan, that predict indeed we'll go over the fiscal cliff and the inaction of congress has the potential of plunging the united states into another recession. that said, they can't afford to becoming a reality. >> so far they have been very fortunate that the ma
we have been so focused on the house, speaker boehner, plan. about, plan b falling apart. now speaker boehner is pointing towards the senate and the white house is pointing towards the senate as a place where we might get bipartisan cooperation. they think they have 10 republican votes for some kind of a plan that the president would propose that democrats in republicans in the senate could get together on and then ask speaker boehner to have a vote on it in the house. that could be a problem...
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consider here the two key players in all of this president obama and republican house speaker john boehner. as far as we know the two of them have not really been talking. the lines of communication are theoretically open but both of them seem to be standing their ground. one other factor to consider here is something we just heard from the treasury secretary tim geithner telling us we are rapidly approaching the nation's debt ceiling. we could hit it by the end of the year. there are accounting tricks we can use to prevent us from hitting that by the end of the month. it shows you how complicated this is getting. one other factor that was going to become part of the grand bargain if we ever reach grand bargain. right now they could be looking for a stopgap measure. >> we have heard that before a stopgap measure. thank you very much. appreciate it. >>> you hear those two key words there accounting gimmicks. let's talk about stories you can bank on this morning. lauren simonetti from the fox business network has more on the accounting gimmicks and the statement about the debt ceiling. the t
consider here the two key players in all of this president obama and republican house speaker john boehner. as far as we know the two of them have not really been talking. the lines of communication are theoretically open but both of them seem to be standing their ground. one other factor to consider here is something we just heard from the treasury secretary tim geithner telling us we are rapidly approaching the nation's debt ceiling. we could hit it by the end of the year. there are...
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house speaker john boehner staying in ohio. he says some contact, but communication is no substitute for senate action. it's all in the senate. >> juliet: all righty. log on to our web site for our after the show show because we're going to be giving you lots of gossip and secrets that you don't hear. >> kelly: really? >> juliet: yeah. >> clayton: that's news. i'll make sure i'm there. gregg: fox news alert. millions at the mercy of mother nature this morning after a massive storms slams the northeast bringing snow, rain, high winds, icy road conditions. more than 50 flights have been canceled today following the grounding of more than 1700 the day before. coming up in minutes we'll go live to anna kooiman live in scranton, pennsylvania where folks are trying to dig out from more than a foot of snow. but first, bad weather making be delaying lawmakers plans to get back to the negotiating table in washington, d.c. good morning, i'm gregg jarrett in "america's newsroom.". patti ann: freight to be with you again, gregg. i'm patti
house speaker john boehner staying in ohio. he says some contact, but communication is no substitute for senate action. it's all in the senate. >> juliet: all righty. log on to our web site for our after the show show because we're going to be giving you lots of gossip and secrets that you don't hear. >> kelly: really? >> juliet: yeah. >> clayton: that's news. i'll make sure i'm there. gregg: fox news alert. millions at the mercy of mother nature this morning after a...
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speaker boehner, nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid. earlier today, the senate majority leader sounded frustrated with the republicans in congress. >> nothing can move forward unless speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell are willing to come up with a bipartisan plan to participate. speaker boehner is unwilling to negotiate. we have not heard a word since neither mcconnell. nothing has happened. >> i should note that senator reid was due for a news conference later this afternoon. that has since been canceled. perhaps the senate majority leader has decided to do his talking behind closed doors and hammer out a deal. greg: filled with metaphors, no doubt. what a republican saying about the status of the fiscal cliff negotiations? reporter: they have been pretty quiet so far. we know the speaker of the house and the republican leadership team in the house is due for a conference call with members that are still back in their home districts later this hour. we expect senate republican leader mitch mcconnell to be on the senate floor. the top
speaker boehner, nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid. earlier today, the senate majority leader sounded frustrated with the republicans in congress. >> nothing can move forward unless speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell are willing to come up with a bipartisan plan to participate. speaker boehner is unwilling to negotiate. we have not heard a word since neither mcconnell. nothing has happened. >> i should note that senator reid was due for a news conference later this...
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back to you guys. >> juliet: listening to them, what senator reid says about boehner and boehner's response. they sound like they're real housewives of dc or something. >> eric: they're nowhere near a deal. i think i have this figured out. president obama came back from hits vacation saying let's see if we can get something together, knowing very well that they can't. the house and senate are so far apart, neither one will even entertain the idea -- >> juliet: so why have a meeting? >> eric: you look like you're trying o do the right thing. these bush tax cuts will expire december 31, 72 hours from now, whatever the number is. if president obama comes back in january sometime and says, you know what, house republican members, i have an idea. let's lower taxes 'cause they went back up. let's lower taxes back to where they were last year for the people making under $250,000 a year and let's call them the obama tax cuts. it looks like he's the tax cutter and if you're a republican in the house, you go, wait a minute, i'm supposed to be for lower taxes. how can i vote no for lowering taxes on a
back to you guys. >> juliet: listening to them, what senator reid says about boehner and boehner's response. they sound like they're real housewives of dc or something. >> eric: they're nowhere near a deal. i think i have this figured out. president obama came back from hits vacation saying let's see if we can get something together, knowing very well that they can't. the house and senate are so far apart, neither one will even entertain the idea -- >> juliet: so why have a...
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speaker boehner is in his home state of ohio today. the house gop leadershipship put out a statement yesterday saying the house has passed legislation extending existing tax cuts and putting -- delaying putting off some spending cuts and replacing them with other spending cuts, and they're urging the senate to do the same. jon? jon: molly henneberg there at the white house where we are getting down to the wire. thank you. for more on the efforts to keep the economy from heading over the cliff and the likelihood of reaching some kind of a deal in time, let's talk with susan -- [inaudible] chief congressional correspondent for the washington examiner. what are the chances here, susan? >> hi, jon. i think at this point we're just simply running out of time. we have only got a few days left. they're so far apart on what an agreement would look like. even if they weren't going to put together a comprehensive deal which everybody agrees there's simply not enough time for. if they were trying to get something together that would stop the tax
speaker boehner is in his home state of ohio today. the house gop leadershipship put out a statement yesterday saying the house has passed legislation extending existing tax cuts and putting -- delaying putting off some spending cuts and replacing them with other spending cuts, and they're urging the senate to do the same. jon? jon: molly henneberg there at the white house where we are getting down to the wire. thank you. for more on the efforts to keep the economy from heading over the cliff...
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all we're asking is that speaker boehner hold a vote on that bill. i don't know why he's afraid to even hoet a vote. hold a vote. that is allowing the process to work, allow democrats and republicans in the house to dash. gregg: he said they already voted on a plan to extend all the tax cuts. >> but they had a vote in the senate on that plan and they voted it down, and then on a bipartisan basis they passed another bill. gregg: 0 out of time. thanks for taking a few moments to be with us. it's good to be with you. chris van hollen. patti ann: former president george h.w. bush remains in inch teps i have care at a houston hospital where he's being treated for a persistent cough, and a fever and a cough. we are being told by his camp that his condition is not dire. mike to be inch is live in houston. what kind of update do you have for us? >> reporter: we are in a position to say right now that no news is good news. spokes people for the former president have indicated that they will be pretty judicious with information, partly out of concern that this
all we're asking is that speaker boehner hold a vote on that bill. i don't know why he's afraid to even hoet a vote. hold a vote. that is allowing the process to work, allow democrats and republicans in the house to dash. gregg: he said they already voted on a plan to extend all the tax cuts. >> but they had a vote in the senate on that plan and they voted it down, and then on a bipartisan basis they passed another bill. gregg: 0 out of time. thanks for taking a few moments to be with us....
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bypassing house speaker john boehner, who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority on minority leads are harry reid on mitch mcconnell to work out a deal on then present it to the house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they are can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, i asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on miedddle class families don' go up, that unemployment is still available for 2 million people on that lays the groundwork for additional deficit reduction on economic growth steps that we can take in the new year but let's not miss this deadline. >> as for the two senate leaders, they spoke shortly after the meeting on sounded a bit more hopeful than the president. >> i think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it's a very serious meeting on it took an extended period of time, as you all know wai
bypassing house speaker john boehner, who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority on minority leads are harry reid on mitch mcconnell to work out a deal on then present it to the house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they are can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, i asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that...
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at this point, speaker boehner remains in ohio. the house will be coming back on sunday. >> trace: molly henneberg, thank you. then there is the dairy cliff. by next week we could be paying 7 bucks a gallon for milk. the price could jump to more than twice the current average, $3.65 a gallon. it goes back to a true manner are a law where the u.s. government buys mass quantities of milk. >> what happened is in the senate, they approved the farm bill but the house of represents hasn't. what happens under the 1949 law is if the new bill isn't passed january 1, the government is obliged to buy huge quantities of milk at twice the wholesale value. farmers will sell all their milk to the government and create a shortage in the stores. lobbyist say this is easy for congress to fix. >> the farm bill is like this low hanging ornament on the congressional christmas tree. if they embrace it they can come up with tens of billions of dollars in budget savings and figure out where else they need to cut spending after that. >> reporter: now, the
at this point, speaker boehner remains in ohio. the house will be coming back on sunday. >> trace: molly henneberg, thank you. then there is the dairy cliff. by next week we could be paying 7 bucks a gallon for milk. the price could jump to more than twice the current average, $3.65 a gallon. it goes back to a true manner are a law where the u.s. government buys mass quantities of milk. >> what happened is in the senate, they approved the farm bill but the house of represents...
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he tried to call john boehner that night. john boehner was not returning phone calls. pressure moves the house to change. about $9 billion of the bill will be voted on tomorrow. that needs two-thirds of the house. they think they will get it. then they will be a bigger package later. john boehner had to back down amid the pressure. host: for a total price tag of $60 billion ta? guest: yes. down the road, tax reform, immigration, gun control. i am not sure what the gun- control be in the house. john boehner has told his troops that if we did have a conversation about this out to the connecticut shootings. these are difficult votes. -- after the connecticut shootings. these are difficult votes. to have ad dto have conversation about this after the connecticut shootings. these are difficult votes. we have a new president pro tem in the wake of senator inouye's death. one of the things i was expected to come up was filibuster reform. harry reid very frustrated with what he calls republican obstructionism. the decision was postponed until later this month. there's probably
he tried to call john boehner that night. john boehner was not returning phone calls. pressure moves the house to change. about $9 billion of the bill will be voted on tomorrow. that needs two-thirds of the house. they think they will get it. then they will be a bigger package later. john boehner had to back down amid the pressure. host: for a total price tag of $60 billion ta? guest: yes. down the road, tax reform, immigration, gun control. i am not sure what the gun- control be in the house....
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speaker boehner's position, we already passed one measure. it is now up to the u.s. senate. here's congressman ted poe just moments ago. take a listen to this. >> mr. speaker, the american people, they actually do get it, at least those people that work and pay taxes, the backbone of america, the workers of america. they say, stop the spending obsession. mr. speaker, the problem is spending. we got here by spending too much, not by taxing too little. we're going off the cliff of our pocket's full of somebody else's money and that is just the way it is. gregg: we'll continue to monitor the remarks on the floor of the house of representatives and we're keeping an eye on what is going on over on the other side of the u.s. senate. not much activity. they're supposed to remeet or convene. it is a little difficult to know which at 11:00 a.m. this morning. so we'll keep you posted on that. heather: meantime a holiday horror story. nine people are killed in a tour bus accident. this happened in oregon. the bus, carrying about 40 people, lost control on an icy road yesterday. first-r
speaker boehner's position, we already passed one measure. it is now up to the u.s. senate. here's congressman ted poe just moments ago. take a listen to this. >> mr. speaker, the american people, they actually do get it, at least those people that work and pay taxes, the backbone of america, the workers of america. they say, stop the spending obsession. mr. speaker, the problem is spending. we got here by spending too much, not by taxing too little. we're going off the cliff of our...
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host: speaker boehner voted for it. what do you read into his vote and conversations happening of the last couple of days? he felt i do not know. there were some candid -- guest: i do not know. there were some candid discussions. i think there was a lot of healthy discussion. host: on the front page of "the washington post," speaker boehner and leader eric cantor. will we see perhaps a change in speaker? guest: i do not that we will see a change, but their real question is what the next two years -- will the next two years. the previous two years? conservative -- be like the previous two years? spendingposed to cut on the sequestration, but that was delayed. our question as conservatives is when will we start the battle over spending? we waited two years. we're not willing to wait longer. host: "the washington post couple talks about the giveaways, the compromises. guest: people say why do you the compromise more often, and i wish we could hold up that article because the only way we compromise is by borrowing more mone
host: speaker boehner voted for it. what do you read into his vote and conversations happening of the last couple of days? he felt i do not know. there were some candid -- guest: i do not know. there were some candid discussions. i think there was a lot of healthy discussion. host: on the front page of "the washington post," speaker boehner and leader eric cantor. will we see perhaps a change in speaker? guest: i do not that we will see a change, but their real question is what the...
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he and boehner went back and forth. let's listen. >> if we come up with something that's not that easy we're dealing with big numbers and some of the stuff that we do is somewhat complicated but i think it was a positive meeting there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it is a very serious meeting and it would have took an extended period of time as you all know waiting for us. but everybody, this is -- whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect. some people aren't going to like it. some people will like it less. but that's where we're. and i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can and that was made very clear in the white house. we're going to do the best we can for the caucuses that we have and the country waiting for us to make a decision. >> juliet: charles krauthammer made a great point the other day. ultimately the way the president is going to be judged isn't going to be what happens in the next couple of days. it's not going to be on popul
he and boehner went back and forth. let's listen. >> if we come up with something that's not that easy we're dealing with big numbers and some of the stuff that we do is somewhat complicated but i think it was a positive meeting there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it is a very serious meeting and it would have took an extended period of time as you all know waiting for us. but everybody, this is -- whatever we come up with is going to be...
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could or could not do and the talks were focused between the president and speaker boehner. when he was unable to get enough votes for his idea to have the income tax threshold be at $1 mi million and when that did not work, he insisted that the senate begin to act. politically that is important, because they want to see how many democrats are on board and will all of them join in, and how many senate republicans and especially the more conservative members and members up for re-election in 2014 and how many of them would be prepared to go forward, and then that gives boehner more muscle to try to get enough of his republican members to goal along. in the house, they will need house democrats, and they will need republicans. so there is a mechanical part of this. there is a plit will cal arm wrestling part of this, and there is what will unfold over the next 24 hours in how can they reach a deal. sources in both parties are telling me that part of the sticking point right now is where to set the income threshold and what happens to estate taxes. speaker boehner is saying tha
could or could not do and the talks were focused between the president and speaker boehner. when he was unable to get enough votes for his idea to have the income tax threshold be at $1 mi million and when that did not work, he insisted that the senate begin to act. politically that is important, because they want to see how many democrats are on board and will all of them join in, and how many senate republicans and especially the more conservative members and members up for re-election in...
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so john boehner retains this gavel. is it -- why should he even want the -- i'm surprised he wants it. >> well, i think, perhaps, you know -- if we're going to look at the other side for a minute, maybe he's looking at this. yes, in a weakened state. but does this not give him an opportunity now to say, you know what, i tried it your way, far right. i'm going to take bills to the floor, even if they don't have majority republican house support. and really shoot for some grand compromises. maybe he does go back to the old school way of how he used to be, which was, you know, trying to strike the grand bargain and going across the aisle and such to get big issues done. frankly, it's going to be really hard to get issues like immigration, gun control -- >> it is. and i guess my question -- who talks to the white house? who will negotiate for the republican party on capitol hill? john boehner said it's not going to be him. >> exactly. john boehner actually said, i'm not going to have one-on-one meetings with the president a
so john boehner retains this gavel. is it -- why should he even want the -- i'm surprised he wants it. >> well, i think, perhaps, you know -- if we're going to look at the other side for a minute, maybe he's looking at this. yes, in a weakened state. but does this not give him an opportunity now to say, you know what, i tried it your way, far right. i'm going to take bills to the floor, even if they don't have majority republican house support. and really shoot for some grand compromises....
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bachmann voted for boehner. this tells you how disorganized conservatives are in the end. two days after he proceeds over and endorses the massive tax increase going against basic republican principles. conservatives in the end make him speaker again. >> the caucus is in disarray. they didn't ban together in the fiscal cliff thing. the republicans have more leverage with the credit ceiling. you heard mitch mcconnell refer to it. it will depend if they use that leverage to whether they get together behind a common position. that will be john boehner's channel to deal with that. my gosh, i mean, i don't envy him as two more years as speaker but i don't know why he got re-elected. i don't think anybody else wanted the job. >> bret: former spea speaker dennis hastert has a rule named for him. majority of the majority, bringing forward a bill. don't bring forward a bill unless the majority of your own caucus supports that piece of legislation. talked about that going forward on brian kilmeade radio show this morning.
bachmann voted for boehner. this tells you how disorganized conservatives are in the end. two days after he proceeds over and endorses the massive tax increase going against basic republican principles. conservatives in the end make him speaker again. >> the caucus is in disarray. they didn't ban together in the fiscal cliff thing. the republicans have more leverage with the credit ceiling. you heard mitch mcconnell refer to it. it will depend if they use that leverage to whether they get...
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>> well, look, boehner is a chief of no indians. we saw it again today when he reached the end of the roll call. he didn't have enough votes to be speaker. he needed 218 votes to be speaker. when everybody had already voted. he was at 216. and then they had to drag in bachmann and get her vote and then he managed to eke out a two-vote viblctory in a house where he had 18 extra votes. that's how he is. he's a weak, weak man. a weak speaker. therefore, he can't negotiate with the president because the president can actually make commitments, make decisions. he can say when you send me a bill, i'll sign it. what can boehner say? nothing. >> so you led the charge against the gop tax cuts in 2010. let me play for people what you did. >> every single year for the next ten years, the republican tax plan is to give millionaires enough money for a mercedes-benz. they can buy a bottle of wine from 1787 every year for the next decade. thank you, republican party. here's something else they can do. they can buy 20,000 jars of their favorite mus
>> well, look, boehner is a chief of no indians. we saw it again today when he reached the end of the roll call. he didn't have enough votes to be speaker. he needed 218 votes to be speaker. when everybody had already voted. he was at 216. and then they had to drag in bachmann and get her vote and then he managed to eke out a two-vote viblctory in a house where he had 18 extra votes. that's how he is. he's a weak, weak man. a weak speaker. therefore, he can't negotiate with the president...
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boehner has been embarrassed. he could not get the vote of his own caucus, of his own conference to pass a benign piece of legislation, a piece of legislation that protected everybody up to a million dollars. i don't know how you get more embarrassed than that. now, i hope that these guys can get together, these men and women can get together and do something before january 1st. but i'd check those airplane logs if i were you. if they're really serious, they're going to say you're going to get the final word. >> and i'm creating this dynamic of making it difficult. john boehner was not embarrassed. the house works its will. to try to put it ins terms of being embarrassed, misses the whole point. >> and i remember that well because i had a school feed trip to the national zoo that was canceled because the government shut down. so you've robbed your young kids of access. thanks so much for coming on the program. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> up next, capital cliffhanger. behind the scenes in the fiscal cliff n
boehner has been embarrassed. he could not get the vote of his own caucus, of his own conference to pass a benign piece of legislation, a piece of legislation that protected everybody up to a million dollars. i don't know how you get more embarrassed than that. now, i hope that these guys can get together, these men and women can get together and do something before january 1st. but i'd check those airplane logs if i were you. if they're really serious, they're going to say you're going to get...
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i don't think he is going to vote for boehner. because the hurricane sandy money, big money new york and new jersey held up, here is king. go. >> these republicans have no problem finding new york when they are out raising millions of dollars. he they are in new york all the time filling their pockets with money from new yorkers. i'm saying right now anyone from new york and new jersey who contributes 1 penny to congressional republicans is out of their minds because what they did last night was put a knife in the back of new yorkers and new jerseyens absolute disgrace. >> bill: so king is not voting for boehner. he is cass straght his own party. >> well, i wouldn't say that. this was spoken in a heated moment; it was the same reheated moment. in essence, the same cast of characters from the new york, new jersey delegates met with speaker boehner a short while ago and it was all hashed out and the money for sandy victims for hurricane sandy relief is going to be voted out of the congress in two stages. the final vote on january 15
i don't think he is going to vote for boehner. because the hurricane sandy money, big money new york and new jersey held up, here is king. go. >> these republicans have no problem finding new york when they are out raising millions of dollars. he they are in new york all the time filling their pockets with money from new yorkers. i'm saying right now anyone from new york and new jersey who contributes 1 penny to congressional republicans is out of their minds because what they did last...
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juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what happened to john boehner, my gosh, they -- his troops abandoned him. >> andrea: mccarthy is the whip. he should know how many works he has. >> juan: he works for boehner. >> kimberly: but he goes back -- it was a mess. >> juan: the dynamic didn't make sense. this goes back to what eric said. he, what everybody on the far right side why am i not going to put a vote in place not coming to reality. there >> exactly. no way, true conservative doesn't want taxes to go up. >> juan: but this is where we differ. negotiate and compromise if you care about the country and the economy at some point. i have been elected but let's goletnegotiate. >> kimberly: is president obama going to negotiate? >> eric: if it doesn't start with 25
juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what happened to john boehner, my gosh, they -- his troops abandoned him. >> andrea: mccarthy is the whip. he should know how many...
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nada for boehner. on the debt limit president obama proposed a structure similar to what republican leader mitch mcconnell proposed last year. boehner wants to hold the nation's full faith and credit hostage once again to attain even more spending cuts. president obama even threw in an added incentive for republicans, by agreeing to a change in the way social security increases are calculated. no such olive branch was ever extended by republicans. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, is john boehner's move to reconvene the house a face-saving political move or a genuine effort to reach a deal? text a for political. text b for genuine effort. to 622639. or go to our blog at.msnbc.com. i'll bring you the results later in the show. joining me now is legendary congressman charlie rangel of new york. congressman, welcome to the show. >> thank you, doctor. >> speaker boehner is finally reconvening the house. but is this just so much posturing? is there anything substan
nada for boehner. on the debt limit president obama proposed a structure similar to what republican leader mitch mcconnell proposed last year. boehner wants to hold the nation's full faith and credit hostage once again to attain even more spending cuts. president obama even threw in an added incentive for republicans, by agreeing to a change in the way social security increases are calculated. no such olive branch was ever extended by republicans. get your cell phones out. i want to know what...
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and here's house speaker boehner office responded. senator reid should talk less and legislate more. legislate more? what legislation has speaker boehner been working on while on vacation? while we're about to go over the cliff, the gop has been pointing fingers at the president. one gop aide says talks have failed because "the president made a strategic miscalculation and overreached. he picked a fight." picked a fight? sorry, that's not going to fly. the president has come to the table with numerous proposals. he isn't picking a fight. he's fighting for the american people. we all want a deal. but we will not give up our core principles. the president ran on families and has the american people on his side. that's why speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell are cracking up with the clock ticking. joining me now is form er pennsylvania governor ed rendell. jerry bernstein, senior fellow at the center and jonathan, opinion writer for "the washington post" and an msnbc kriblt tor. contributor. thank you all for coming on the show. governor
and here's house speaker boehner office responded. senator reid should talk less and legislate more. legislate more? what legislation has speaker boehner been working on while on vacation? while we're about to go over the cliff, the gop has been pointing fingers at the president. one gop aide says talks have failed because "the president made a strategic miscalculation and overreached. he picked a fight." picked a fight? sorry, that's not going to fly. the president has come to the...
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boehner has this rule he very much believes in. boehner now, especially after this, has to appear strong to his conference. they are going to ask for an exchange for every dollar the debt limit has raised for adjoining spending cut, not to mention, joanne, they know some concessions democrats are willing to make, medicare entry rates, changing social security. they are not going to raise this for the sake of raising it. they are going to want something in return, something big they can show to their members to say we raised the debt limit, but look what we good from president obama, we may want to get 98% of what we want, just like 2011. >> hold on a second, luke, but i want to go to the former chairman of the republican national committee, michael steele on this. a lot of people say this is a complete capitulation and they don't believe republicans can come back and actually exact spending retribution on the president going forward. do you think the party's going to be able to hold together on that? >> there's some value to the pr
boehner has this rule he very much believes in. boehner now, especially after this, has to appear strong to his conference. they are going to ask for an exchange for every dollar the debt limit has raised for adjoining spending cut, not to mention, joanne, they know some concessions democrats are willing to make, medicare entry rates, changing social security. they are not going to raise this for the sake of raising it. they are going to want something in return, something big they can show to...
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according to politico, boehner had strong words for the senate majority leader quote, go f yourself boehner. as he pointed his finger at reid. reid a bit startled replied what are you talking about and boehner then repeated it. go f yourself. they didn't cut the deal. in the end it was vice president biden and the senate majority leader. what does this say about the inability to work together? >> i also like the fact according to that story that boehner then went around bragging to everybody he said that to reid. i think they were both at the bottom of the food chain here of decision makers. they were fighting at the bottom of the chain while mitch mcconnell and joe biden were putting together the deal. i think both boehner and reid in a way were powerless in this decision for obvious reasons. and they -- the white house -- i was told by david plouffe a month ago that he much rather would prefer to work with mcconnell than boehner. mcconnell knows how to play chess, boehner doesn't. >> he got his wish. >> and when i talked to the republican senators they said the same thing about harry reid
according to politico, boehner had strong words for the senate majority leader quote, go f yourself boehner. as he pointed his finger at reid. reid a bit startled replied what are you talking about and boehner then repeated it. go f yourself. they didn't cut the deal. in the end it was vice president biden and the senate majority leader. what does this say about the inability to work together? >> i also like the fact according to that story that boehner then went around bragging to...
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i think obama thought he had that with boehner and it blew up in his face. hillary clinton would have handled that differently, i think. >> him and susan mac doug l, james carville, yes. >> and what lead to the suicide of vitamin sent foster? >> how much time do we have? [laughter] jim is a period person. he has a lot of psychology abnormalities. and he is very manipulative and, you know, when he proposed the white water deal, bill was not interested at all. but hillary thought it was a great idea. it was basically her decision. jim is kind of sick. susan, his wife was aned incredibly suffering person who never betrayed her confidence in and trust in the clintons. and she was treated scandalously by ken knit star who had her e man kled and put her in solitary confinement. -horrible the way she he treated her. james anyone who can understand and talk about him was probably one win and cad me award. i'm not that person. -- [inaudible] i'm sorry nap is the most tragic event one can conceive of. foster and west and hillary clinton were best friends. they had lun
i think obama thought he had that with boehner and it blew up in his face. hillary clinton would have handled that differently, i think. >> him and susan mac doug l, james carville, yes. >> and what lead to the suicide of vitamin sent foster? >> how much time do we have? [laughter] jim is a period person. he has a lot of psychology abnormalities. and he is very manipulative and, you know, when he proposed the white water deal, bill was not interested at all. but hillary...
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juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what happened to john boehner, my gosh, they -- his troops abandoned him. >> andrea: mccarthy is the whip. he should know how many works he has. >> juan: he works for boehner. >> kimberly: but he goes back -- it was a mess. >> juan: the dynamic didn't make sense. this goes back to what eric said. he, what everybody on the far right side why am i not going to put a vote in place not coming to reality. there >> exactly. no way, true conservative doesn't want taxes to go up. >> juan: but this is where we differ. negotiate and compromise if you care about the country and the economy at some point. i have been elected but let's goletnegotiate. >> kimberly: is president obama going to negotiate? >> eric: if it doesn't start with 25
juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what happened to john boehner, my gosh, they -- his troops abandoned him. >> andrea: mccarthy is the whip. he should know how many...
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the house majority and their speaker john boehner. >> moments ago, speaker john boehner met with the new jersey and new york delegations and peter king just emerged saying he will now support the speaker for his re-election tomorrow after boehner vowed to call a vote this friday on $9 billion in flood aid. a second vote on the remaining $51 billion aid package will come the first day of legislative action in the 113th congress. let's back spin. i know, guys, on the face of this it would seem a ridiculous and terrible idea for republicans to say no to advancing this aid package. i will just break down very quickly some of the reasons why having talked to a few republicans today. they wanted to pass a clean bill, a. and b, they want to match that spending with cuts. and i know that a balanced budget sounds so 1998, but i think it's kind of a quaint notion worth keeping around. and they knew that advancing this was not going to allow them the opportunity to match that aid with the necessary cuts. and in addition, i think some of them took to the fact that this bill had some unrelated po
the house majority and their speaker john boehner. >> moments ago, speaker john boehner met with the new jersey and new york delegations and peter king just emerged saying he will now support the speaker for his re-election tomorrow after boehner vowed to call a vote this friday on $9 billion in flood aid. a second vote on the remaining $51 billion aid package will come the first day of legislative action in the 113th congress. let's back spin. i know, guys, on the face of this it would...
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earlier reports of this story had it john boehner would be on hand, but john boehner is not even in washington, d.c., and a spokesperson told us they haven't been invited. so figure that out. who will follow as it continues to break but right now a meettng with congressional leaders on the fiscal cliff with the president on hand tomorrow, friday, and we will shirk over that. i put different topic. even if you aren't a frequent flyer, my next guest says you can enjoy the perks of being one. like being upgraded to first class and it is not as hard as you think. now, rick, have waited for this segment for the whole show because i wanted that elite status but i don't fly enough to really earn it. so tell me, how can i get that elite status without doing all the work were spending all the money? >> typically the one bad problem with elite status if you have to fly. you don't have to fly very much. we'll give you an example of how my wife achieved elite status in one trip but typically a big difference between the miles you get on your credit card and bonuses and vendors to those you can use to rede
earlier reports of this story had it john boehner would be on hand, but john boehner is not even in washington, d.c., and a spokesperson told us they haven't been invited. so figure that out. who will follow as it continues to break but right now a meettng with congressional leaders on the fiscal cliff with the president on hand tomorrow, friday, and we will shirk over that. i put different topic. even if you aren't a frequent flyer, my next guest says you can enjoy the perks of being one. like...
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the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. we respond to innocent victims of natural disasters, not as republicans or democrats, but as americans, or at least we did until last night. >> jennifer: now criticism like that has prompted speaker boehner to change his tune. he now says that congress will take up that storm-relief package this week. coming us tonight from washington to talk about why congress did fail to act is andrew krol a reporter with "mother jones." andy welcome back. happy new year. >> happy new year to you too. >> jennifer: stenny holder says that eric cantor told him that he was 99.9% sure that a sandy package would in fact make it to the floor. and this was before last night. what happened? >> these -- this relief package for the victims of hurricane sandy, focusing on the damage in new york and new jersey was expected to be handled last night amidst all of the fiscal cliff drama, and about an hour before midnight as far as we know house speaker john boehner pulled the vote on this. he quietly said there wa
the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. we respond to innocent victims of natural disasters, not as republicans or democrats, but as americans, or at least we did until last night. >> jennifer: now criticism like that has prompted speaker boehner to change his tune. he now says that congress will take up that storm-relief package this week. coming us tonight from washington to talk about why congress did fail to act is andrew krol a reporter with "mother jones." andy...
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i think that hurt them, boehner. i think that's why boehner is being controlled, unfortunately, by the right wing. i agree with bernie sanders. very sad. i believe that boehner's a good man and wants a deal done and impossible with these folks. >> the finger's not only pointed at the republicans and the tea party caucus but also to some democrats. here's one of your republican colleagues this morning. take a listen to what she said. >> sure. >> everything -- it's just about scoring political points and i know that the american people are tired of that. they're tired of all of us. i understand that. we just make -- used car sales men look good. that's the only group below us. we have to get our act together and prove to the american people that we can regain the trust that they once had in us and get the job done. >> yeah. the perception -- go ahead, please, congressman. looking at the can kicked down the road by both sides. >> let me be clear. she is a very good friend of mine and i understand her point of view. but
i think that hurt them, boehner. i think that's why boehner is being controlled, unfortunately, by the right wing. i agree with bernie sanders. very sad. i believe that boehner's a good man and wants a deal done and impossible with these folks. >> the finger's not only pointed at the republicans and the tea party caucus but also to some democrats. here's one of your republican colleagues this morning. take a listen to what she said. >> sure. >> everything -- it's just about...
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boehner, speak of the house. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the appointments are approved. without objection, house resolution 1 is amended by striking florida in the second place it appears and reinserting oregon. under clause 5-b of rule 20, the chair announces to the house that the whole numb of the house is 429. the chair lays before the house the physical lowing personal communications. the clerk: leaves of absence requested for mr. ribble of wisconsin for today after 4:30 p.m. and for the balance of of the week and ms. roybal-allard for today and friday, january 4, 2013. the speaker pro tempore: without objection the requests are granted. for what purpose does the gentlewoman from north carolina rise? -- does the gentleman from north carolina rise? >> mr. speaker, i move that the house do now adjourn. the speaker pro tempore: the question is on the motion to adjourn. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. accordingly the house stands adjourned until 10:00 a.m. tomorrow. >>
boehner, speak of the house. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the appointments are approved. without objection, house resolution 1 is amended by striking florida in the second place it appears and reinserting oregon. under clause 5-b of rule 20, the chair announces to the house that the whole numb of the house is 429. the chair lays before the house the physical lowing personal communications. the clerk: leaves of absence requested for mr. ribble of wisconsin for today after 4:30...
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it's a wonder that boehner didn't drop the "f" bomb more. the irony here is boehner could lose the job trying to make a deal. harry reid will likely keep his job. boehner is a bore for being blunt and telling the other guy to his face, but reid is an angel for being phony. and referring to rip the other guy only behind his back. this isn't about a speaker losing it. this little exchange is more about a phony decorum that tries to hide it. what is weird is both like boehner an cantor are called fiscal stiffs on the cover of the "new york daily news" for having serious issues with a rescue bill for sandy victims because it wasn't going to just sandy victims. but democrats happy to sign a $60 billion blank check are saints, saying they are happy to tap it to repair smithsonian museum roof and plant trees in ohio. untold millions for items with nothing to do with sandy. not exactly dancing. it's a wonder boehner didn't curse more. more of a wonder why the media didn't wish he did. that is not fair and not right. it's wrong. would it kill us to g
it's a wonder that boehner didn't drop the "f" bomb more. the irony here is boehner could lose the job trying to make a deal. harry reid will likely keep his job. boehner is a bore for being blunt and telling the other guy to his face, but reid is an angel for being phony. and referring to rip the other guy only behind his back. this isn't about a speaker losing it. this little exchange is more about a phony decorum that tries to hide it. what is weird is both like boehner an cantor...
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boehner has to say what is my plan b.?ced a planet close embrace, what happens is john boehner cannot get enough of his to get on board to have the votes and close helo was actually putting the votes against her own plan amongde democrats. o amongde democrats. o well for pelosi. it is dysfunctional, both parties are really not covering themselves, and here we stand. eric: the president in washington tonight. got some breaking news maybe can cover for us from the speaker and the office said we already have a couple of deals on the table, it is your turn, senate. >> that is where the ball is going now. speaker and the majority leader eric cantor are leaving out is all i is go to the senate because the speaker could be ate the job done last thursday night with plan b. e plan a is essentially the big deal, fortran dollars debt plan speaking a short time ago to a white house official who says they still believe th they move halfway towards republicans starting out only one interest tax in $250,000 above. they have moved that go
boehner has to say what is my plan b.?ced a planet close embrace, what happens is john boehner cannot get enough of his to get on board to have the votes and close helo was actually putting the votes against her own plan amongde democrats. o amongde democrats. o well for pelosi. it is dysfunctional, both parties are really not covering themselves, and here we stand. eric: the president in washington tonight. got some breaking news maybe can cover for us from the speaker and the office said we...
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but two points i would say about boehner. i do think he is an impossible position, especially because he is basically a moderate and the tea party and the conservatives do not trust him answered has made mistakes. the plan b, the morning after bill, as we like to call it that was a debacle, something he caused and was unnecessary, created chaos and not helpful. mcconnell are had to step in the last minute and said let me handle this four, john boehner. he has sort of done the best with that circumstances. also made some missteps. i would say that there is some merit to the idea that someone who is actually from the right of the party or at least has trust from the right of the party could be in a better position to be more effective, just because they would have that base level of trust. right now the conservatives in the party are constantly looking and assuming that john boehner is going to sell them out. and that is not helpful to doing a good job, as much as anyone could do a good job as speaker right now h >> boehner has
but two points i would say about boehner. i do think he is an impossible position, especially because he is basically a moderate and the tea party and the conservatives do not trust him answered has made mistakes. the plan b, the morning after bill, as we like to call it that was a debacle, something he caused and was unnecessary, created chaos and not helpful. mcconnell are had to step in the last minute and said let me handle this four, john boehner. he has sort of done the best with that...
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reid says it's up to boehner, white house can't get boehner to talk to them. it's kind of a mess, senator schatz. and it is now part of your party. so what is the next move? there is late news tonight that president obama will convene a meeting of congressional leaders at the white house tomorrow afternoon to discuss the current impasse. and to give you a spirit of the compromise and sense of goodwill toward men in which republican house speaker john boehner is approaching this meeting here is a statement we were e-mailed by brendan bock. "tomorrow speaker boehner will attend a meeting where he will continue to stress that the house has already passed legislation to avert the entire fiscal cliff and now the senate must act." so that's helpful. senator schatz, i know you probably just checked into the marriott capitol hill or something, but i don't know, you got any ideas? joining us is someone who i hope will have ideas. democratic senator debbie stabenow. senator stabenow, thank you for being with us tonight. >> absolutely, ezra. and i wanted to thank you for
reid says it's up to boehner, white house can't get boehner to talk to them. it's kind of a mess, senator schatz. and it is now part of your party. so what is the next move? there is late news tonight that president obama will convene a meeting of congressional leaders at the white house tomorrow afternoon to discuss the current impasse. and to give you a spirit of the compromise and sense of goodwill toward men in which republican house speaker john boehner is approaching this meeting here is...
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>> boehner. >> boehner. black? >> john boehner. >> boehner. jon: as we understand it, they are going to be calling the names of perhaps 429 house members. that's the number that responded to the quorum call. there should be, at least by the counts of republicans and democrats in the room, there should be 433 present, but 40 -- what's the number? 419? is that what i said earlier? jenna: i believe that's what you said. i do listen. 429. [laughter] jon: 429. okay, so four of them, i don't know, for whatever reason they're just not present or at least not acknowledging -- jenna: it's a pretty interesting process. these are people you're going to work with for a couple of years, and you have to stand and be present and say who you're going to vote for or say you're not going to vote for. that could be someone tough to face in the hallway when you've got to meet them in the eye and say you didn't get my vote. jon: right. there was some talk among some republican members who were dissatisfied with the leadership of speaker boehner, they wanted to hav
>> boehner. >> boehner. black? >> john boehner. >> boehner. jon: as we understand it, they are going to be calling the names of perhaps 429 house members. that's the number that responded to the quorum call. there should be, at least by the counts of republicans and democrats in the room, there should be 433 present, but 40 -- what's the number? 419? is that what i said earlier? jenna: i believe that's what you said. i do listen. 429. [laughter] jon: 429. okay, so four...